tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19095465.post845262510220741475..comments2023-03-27T21:07:05.248-07:00Comments on Seal of Abraham: Transformative DNA: Take Religion Out of It - And Understand Divine TransformationRev. C. Solomonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03240139827281272439noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19095465.post-17818226463071595232008-02-13T12:08:00.000-08:002008-02-13T12:08:00.000-08:00Bob,I will be praying for you - for you are quite ...Bob,<BR/><BR/>I will be praying for you - for you are quite manipulative, and I sense in need of 'emotional' prayer!<BR/><BR/>peace & graceRev. C. Solomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03240139827281272439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19095465.post-5594658345730781372008-02-13T02:42:00.000-08:002008-02-13T02:42:00.000-08:00Rev. c. solomon, the last question i asked of you ...Rev. c. solomon, the last question i asked of you was not an attack, but an easy and honest one, and the answer is the essence of the whole, of all scripture, and Gods plan for all his creatures, and required no defensive responce. " I forgive you"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19095465.post-31842043805250108622008-02-12T12:43:00.000-08:002008-02-12T12:43:00.000-08:00...correction,The disciples that that Apostle Paul......correction,<BR/><BR/>The disciples that that Apostle Paul...at Ephesus.<BR/><BR/>Rev. CRev. C. Solomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03240139827281272439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19095465.post-61391172798167747202008-02-12T12:41:00.000-08:002008-02-12T12:41:00.000-08:00To all,And that includes my anonymous readers who ...To all,<BR/><BR/>And that includes my anonymous readers who write me from time to time. <BR/><BR/>There is an urgency behind what I am writing about in this blog. I am concerned and I believe spiritually motivated to write, as well preach these things - and I do that as well.<BR/><BR/>When I preach or talk to church groups or individuals on the topic, 'American Capitalist Church Syndrome', with some a glazed look comes over their eyes. <BR/><BR/>When I talk, write or preach about being born again, in terms that post-modern human beings ought to understand, some retrograde believers become offended. <BR/><BR/>Why? Perhaps the way that I say things, or because change is hard to accept at times. And I suspect that it is really more of the latter that disturbs them! <BR/><BR/>There are an inestimable number of individuals in the world, religious individuals no less, who have not been authenticated, if what we understand from the canon is true. Many are in the state of the Acts 19 Apostles that the Apostle Paul ministered to at Ephesus. <BR/><BR/>The latter have done some of the things that are apparently required in a Christian context, and they simply stopped with the one action step that they have taken, some got baptized, others joined a church and some simply said, I believe. Is there any other way? Is the doctrine of Universalism correct?<BR/><BR/>Bob and I spar, however, he does not realize that I am on his side. However,as Priscilla and Aquila had to do with Apollos the excellent teacher Alexandrian, who taught exceptionally well the few things that he had understood, I am challenging religious individuals especially - to do what Paul said in 1 Thessalonians 5:20. <BR/><BR/>For there is more than the few captioned ideas that many believers have in fact mastered - and for them what they understand is all that matters. However, there is much much more than any of us understand, that is still be grasped!<BR/><BR/>It is hardest they say to teach 'an old dog', new tricks!<BR/><BR/>Paul instructed the believers at Thessalonica to prove (test) all things! And we should all do that for after all is said and done, each of us is responsible for his personal destiny and outcome! <BR/><BR/>We should not leave it to 'a preacher', 'a church' or 'a single document' to guide our destiny, particularly when we have not examined that document as we should have done, or that teacher or preacher for that matter!<BR/><BR/>Many believers, with respect to the latter, are much like the 'dispensation of the Mosaic Law, Hebrews'. They were immersed in the Law, sacrifice and all religious observances. <BR/><BR/>When Jesus came his purpose was to complete their knowledge and understanding, and to liberate them from ostentatious worship and sacrifices, they turned on him (their preachers no less) and worked instead to have had him put to death! <BR/><BR/>He came to his own, as I am coming to you - and they rejected him, preferred pseudo-religion and practices over truth! And Jesus permitted his protagonists to crucify his body. <BR/><BR/>However, Jesus lives on today in our words, in our memories and in a spiritual reality. <BR/><BR/>I simply ask you to not kill the messengers of today whom God has sent, and to be cautious of those who use the scriptures and Christianity in order to build their own self-gratifying organizations. <BR/><BR/>And finally, try to understand a message, no matter how new or different it may sound to your long-term religious ears. For I believe that we have played church in Christendom, long enough. <BR/><BR/>And we have done it for so long, essentially having become 'road blockers' of the pathway to get to God - that some individuals are turning from the pathway that we block, and they are pursuing and finding God through other means!<BR/><BR/>And I know Bob won't be able to believe that I said that! <BR/><BR/>However, Bob should recall that Moses met God at a burning bush, Paul by traveling down a dusty highway and others in non-religious and non-descript ways. <BR/><BR/>And our scientists today are finding God via scientific research and discovery!<BR/><BR/>God wants to be found I believe, and he has many ways to facilitate his being discovered!<BR/><BR/>Peace & grace,Rev. C. Solomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03240139827281272439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19095465.post-24789118585260618942008-02-12T01:26:00.000-08:002008-02-12T01:26:00.000-08:00Bob Said, Let this third grader ask a question the...Bob Said, <BR/><BR/>Let this third grader ask a question then, since you are so astute on science, very specifically, and in every nuance of detail , please explain just how did this dna get into our dna, where is the exact connecting point of transference take place ? ( remember I,m a third grader ) ,so keep it simple, but exact. child in Christ <BR/><BR/>Bob, <BR/><BR/>Obviously, I did not call you a third grader, nor did I claim to be as astute as you have claimed that I am with respect to science. <BR/><BR/>Neverthlesss I offended you.<BR/>But don't be offended, for religion in most churches is taught on an elementary school level. <BR/><BR/>I have already answered your question in spite of the fact that you never answered mine. You keep pushing the envelope and moving on to the next attack? <BR/><BR/>If you will recall, you originally attacked me with venal conjecture -whereby accusing me of having never read the works of the late pontiff. You don't know me, and you don't know what I have read. And I proved you wrong!<BR/><BR/>I then asked you pointedly if you had read his writings, and I provided you with the titles of just a couple of his writings, and what did you do? You completely ignored my questions and instead charged back with yet another challenge of your own - stop attacking Bob, and consider what is being said. <BR/><BR/>We won't get any place by you employing your version of the socratic method. Too many Christians today have been taught to quote scriptures, yet when you ask them to explain exactly what the plan of Jesus Christ is, or where those scriptures came from they cannot hardly tell you!<BR/><BR/>What is important Bob is that Jesus came to effect a work in us (whereby transferring us from our current state as the fallen sons of Adam), into our new state of being, whereby we become the newly born sons of the second Adam who is Jesus Christ, and citizens of another Kingdom.<BR/><BR/>The details of our new DNA are encoded in the Holy Spirit that is sent to us, for among other reasons to be the change agent that impregnates us with that Holy Spirit of Promise. <BR/><BR/>The power of the Adamic human is cancelled out, and it no longer has a death grip on us, once we go through the the change, mutation, metamorposis...take your pick!<BR/><BR/>And with the seal of the Spirit we become new creatures in Christ and citizens of a brand new Kingdom. We cannot fully enter that Kingdom until we shed these bodies! <BR/><BR/>And just as the Kingdom is not visual, neither is the change agent visible - as a rule! <BR/><BR/>If the Holy Spirit has not been permitted to make that change in one's life (a total work of the Holy Spirit) preceded by acceptance by the receiver, then the individual, even religious ones continue to be descendants of the 1st Adam's seed, and still dying citizens in an unchanged and dying world! <BR/><BR/>And no matter how many scriptures we quote, songs we sing, how many times we attend church, or how much piety we show..., nothing changes until the Holy Spirit changes us!<BR/><BR/>The spirit (pneuma) moves at will, like the wind (A RUSHING MIGHTY WIND as on the day of Pentecost. And just as we cannot immediately tell in the biological world the second that a woman becomes impregnated, neither can we tell the exact second when the Adamic man is reborn of the new seed - unless God permits it! <BR/><BR/>Also, Jesus plainly spoke and gave the answer to your question in John chapter 3. <BR/><BR/>Now stop trying to control the narrative, whereby plastering me with questions, and then giving me narrow parameters by which I have to answer the questions?<BR/><BR/>The Pharisees tried that with Jesus and he didn't accept it from them, and neither will I accept it from you!<BR/><BR/>Have you been born again Bob, or are you simply a religious person who quotes a lot of scriptures, that you don't know very much about? <BR/><BR/>Jesus promised to send paracletos back to his disciples, and this Spirit of Truth would return to earth, and guide earthlings into all the truth!<BR/><BR/>Peace, and let's have more amicable discoursing in the future!Rev. C. Solomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03240139827281272439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19095465.post-64466939140149105302008-02-11T18:28:00.000-08:002008-02-11T18:28:00.000-08:00Let this third grader ask a question then, since y...Let this third grader ask a question then, since you are so astute on science, very specifically, and in every nuance of detail , please explain just how did this dna get into our dna, where is the exact connecting point of transference take place ? ( remember I,m a third grader ) ,so keep it simple, but exact. child in ChristAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19095465.post-38003959182795645552008-02-11T16:41:00.000-08:002008-02-11T16:41:00.000-08:00Bob, Re-create, is what I meant to write. Spiritu...Bob, <BR/><BR/>Re-create, is what I meant to write. Spiritual DNA is the spirit, which according to Romans 8, if a man does not have it, he is none of his. <BR/><BR/>Why? He was simply stating a fact. Just as if an entity does not possess human DNA, it is not human, and if a human does not have spiritual DNA he has not received the spirit of adoption!<BR/><BR/>Again, the quoting of scriptures, singing songs, going to church, worshipping, paying tithes, going on church white water rafting tripps..., will not alter a person from his or her fallen state - where there is exclusive fallen Adamic DNA remaining inside of them!<BR/><BR/>The greatest scientist of all was and is God. And God ought to be able to speak with you today in terms that you can understand!<BR/><BR/>Remember what was written in Isaiah 55, regarding our thoughts, our ways, his thoughts and his ideas.<BR/><BR/>Try to reach a bit higher Bob, this will really some condescending however, you are going to have to move beyond 3rd grade religion!<BR/><BR/>peace & grace<BR/>The RevRev. C. Solomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03240139827281272439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19095465.post-73429356660041796342008-02-11T16:31:00.000-08:002008-02-11T16:31:00.000-08:00Bob, You are doing what most Christians have done,...Bob, <BR/><BR/>You are doing what most Christians have done, historically quote scriptures even though they have very little knowledge of the source documents themselves. <BR/><BR/>In your written comments you made a categorically untrue statement, when you accused me of never having read what the Pope wrote. You belittled yourself. I keep trying to encourage your zeal for the Lord, and I encourage you to grow in your understanding - don't preoccupy yourselves with quoting scriptures. <BR/><BR/>Look at what is behind the scriptures, consider the meaning of the scriptures. When you tear away the religious facade, you will understand what Jesus told you. <BR/><BR/>Jesus did not come to bring religion, he came to save that which has been lost given Adam's fall. From that point on man was sentenced to die; somethng that the creator never wanted.<BR/><BR/>The creator sent the 2nd Adam in order to effect a cure for all mankind. The Holy Spirit elixir would be the substance to modify humans forevermore from their fallen status, to a new, lively and reinvigorating hope. <BR/><BR/>The new seed of the Holy Spirit transforms humans into a new creation. And once these bodies are shed, born again once human beings will enter into the new Kingdom, however, in their new forms. <BR/><BR/>Just as with the Blind Man, see John chapter 9, whose eyes Jesus healed (physiologically), once again we witness via the work of Jesus 'the creative work of the Holy Spirit creator in action'. <BR/><BR/>The creative work had nothing to do with religion. The reason that most people are not being born again, is because they are looking for religion, instead of recreation!<BR/><BR/>Peace brotherRev. C. Solomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03240139827281272439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19095465.post-52600780760979288062008-02-11T01:27:00.000-08:002008-02-11T01:27:00.000-08:00What I have written to you about ,inspite of you b...What I have written to you about ,inspite of you belittleing statements,i.e. ( poetical ramblings and soforth), is not only truth, but is biblically supported as truth, i.e.; At Jesus baptism the Holy Spirit decended upon him and the Voice of the Father spoke saying "this is my beloved Son, in Him I am well pleased " in other words follow his example. Even when John the Baptist protested Jesus,s being baptized by him, who is less than Jesus, Jesus said "let it be this way for now", and this shows ,as well as, all the other instances in the bible where Jesus did either pay tithes or follow prescribed teachings or traditions or laws (Jewish Doctrines ). Jesus did all these actions to show his followers that in fact they are neccessary. Even fasting is required for Spiritual strenth, Jesus did not say to stop doing such action, even when John the baptist,s own followers asked Jesus why his desiples did not fast , as did they and the Jewish leaders did , Jesus said that" his followers would not fast,"ONLY "so long as the Bridegroom was "WITH" them , BUT THAT THE TIME WILL COME WHEN THE BRIDEGROOM WILL BE TAKEN FROM THEM AND ON THAT DAY THEY WILL FAST. It was also shortly after that event that Jesus himself went into the desert to "FAST" and pray. Here it also expresses the " WHY " ,Jesus did this to show ,how to gain the strength neccessary to fight off temptations.( As an example to his followers ). By the way Jesus also prayed the Psalms, which in Jewish tradition is done in a singing type of chanting, I suppose Jesus is wrong too, in all these respects as well, at least in YOUR estimations ?. And I suppose that it was, sophomoric and juvenille, for John the Baptist to tell ,in Luke 3: 7-11 , "the crowds coming out to be baptized by him, "YOU brood of vipers ! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath ? Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. And do not begin to say to yourselves , "We have Abraham as our father." For I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. The ax is already at the root of the tree, and every tree that dose not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire." " What should we do then?" the crowd asked. John answered, "The man with two tunics should share with him who has non, and the one who has food should do he same". In other words, these are the very things the tithes are used for. By the way it is the "Seal of the Holy Spirit" THAT SAVES and not the ,seal of Abraham that saves. For, "Jesus came not to abolish the Law , but to fullfill the Law. " And there are many other references in the Bible that refer to WHEN GOD SAID "THIS IS MY BELOVED SON ,LISTEN TO HIM" OR "FOLLOW HIM" Respectfully in Christ , rev c.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19095465.post-7335941787717183552008-02-08T06:36:00.000-08:002008-02-08T06:36:00.000-08:00Bob,I really do not mind having my positions chall...Bob,<BR/><BR/>I really do not mind having my positions challenged, it helps me to crystallize my thinking - hopefully, you will learn to do the same.<BR/><BR/>Having said that, it is so sophomoric if not juvenille to reduce one's challenges and arguments to mere dogmatism, conjecture and absolutism. And that is all that you have done given what you have written. <BR/><BR/>Have you read 'The Personalization of John Paul II'? I will not assume whether you have or have not read it, or be so naive as to tell you beforehand, what you have or have not read - as you have done to me. <BR/><BR/>Have you read any of the late Pope's writings on 'The Intersection of Faith and Reason'?<BR/><BR/>Of course our DNA will be altered, how else will we be changed from carbon forms into spiritual forms!<BR/><BR/>Given your specious argument however, you seemed to have, unwittingly so, proved my point - that like many Christians of today you have substituted religion and religious practice for God's plan of human redemption. <BR/><BR/>The fact that humans were and are still dependent on the earth for survival in our human form is so obvious, that it is not worth debating. The eternal planned and prepared it for our survival, arguably years before he placed us on the earth. <BR/><BR/>Furthermore, we were made from earthly substances. <BR/><BR/>Not only do we receive oxygen, hydrogen, food, water, and rely upon a surrounding stratosphere, trophosphere..., to protect us from dangerous rays - gravity keeps us attached to the earth, so that we will not spin off into unprotected space!<BR/><BR/>As always, I don't have any problem with your poetical ramblings, however, study and get a better understanding of what religion is - there are thousands of them, and you should be able to see that it is not one's religious that saves him, it is obedience to the creator, i.e, doing what it told us to do - that will save us!<BR/><BR/>Waxing poetical, singing songs, paying your tithes and fasting twice in the week will not save you Bob!Rev. C. Solomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03240139827281272439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19095465.post-89545504560719239752008-02-08T02:01:00.000-08:002008-02-08T02:01:00.000-08:00according to your analyses and analogies it clear ...according to your analyses and analogies it clear that you have not understood the writtings of Pope John Paul II, had you actually read his wittings you would know that in no way did he imply or suggest that science ( a "tool", IS NOT an "institution" ) could OR would by research of DNA be able to explain the spiritual. DNA is strictly something to explain the complex nature of our design as creatures by an all Knowing and all Powerful and ALL LOVING GOD. The change in our person has only to do with the heart of our interior being ,as it relates to our heart, where we "conceive" of the commands of God, to love,which is in the "WILL" and in the mind where we "conceive" of the understanding "OF HOW" to show MERCY and LOVE and JUSTICE and to live in TRUTH. This is done by "following" the "example" Of GODs SON JESUS. This is what Jesus spoke of being born again, and not the change of our biological make up of our DNA. We were NOT,I REPEAT "NOT" , "restricted to the earth in order to survive." We were created in this world to learn to recognize and love GOD in His seen creation (OTHERS), for if we cannot love THOSE IN GOD here in this seen world, then there is little or no ability to be able to love that which we cannot see ,THE UNSEEN ALMIGHTY GOD and FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. "THIS IS "FAITH" THE ELEMENT JESUS HIMSELF REQUIRED OF HIS FOLLOWERS". "FAITH" IS NOT A MATTER OF "dna". "dna" is a matter of this world strictly and only ,for it too shall pass away. As the Apostle Paul wrote " what we shall become is not yet revealed". Your reliance on science to "prove" things is counter to the 'MOST REQUIRED ELEMENT OF CHRIST ,OF HIS FOLLOWERS" ,"FAITH". This same "reliance" of yours on science ,that underminds the single most "REQUIRED ELEMENT OF JESUS ", is tantamount to raising science to the level of an all knowing diety, and that is "Idolatry".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com