Anonymous wrote about my comments on American Interventionism and genocide:
THE DIFFERENCE IS WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITHOUT US WANTING TO KILL EACH OTHER & OUR FAMILIES - THEY CANNOT.
GENERALIZATION? READ ANY NEWSPAPER OR NEWS PROGRAM , THEN SAY I'M WRONG..
PLEASE DON'T CITE WESTERN INTERFERENCE FOR THIS...IT IS A SILLY ARGUMENT.
THEIR CIVILZATION IS BEYOND REDEMPTION.
P.S SORRY FOR THE IDIOT COMMENT BEFORE. I, TOO , AM BEYOND REDEMPTION, AFTER SEEING COUPLES HOLDING HANDS JUMPING OUT OF 110 STORY WINDOWS.
Posted by: | June 20
1) You are woefully misinformed about free speech in America. Haven't you read about all of the American militia groups that have come into existence of late within the U.S.A.? Those groups did not come into existence in order to fight or kill foreigners. And consider all of those Americans and what happened to those who spoke out over the past 6 years about Republican religious and political fascism in the U.S.A. - many were summarily destroyed.
Middle-eastern nations are not as intolerant or as totalitarian as some in our own nation who for their own prurient purposes would have you to believe, i.e, that the other side cannot not have discussions without killing each other.
Besides, we are doing a great job of killing those on the other side ourselves. And why? Simply for having a difference of opinion than that of the West. And don't forget JFK, MLK, RK and the rest who were all slaughtered in the U.S.A. because of what they believed in, and their having had the audacity to express their beliefs to the American public. And don't forget that RR almost shared the same fate. We are not sacrosanct!
2) The United Nations body politic, most of our allies, the Vatican and the majority of American citizens and others mostly agree with my 'silly argument', i.e, that the U.S.A. has gone beyond interfering in the Middle-east, we are viewed by most as an illegal invader-occupier. Even the Europeans are contemplating a strong alliance, beyond the Euro dollar, that can buttress the power of the opportunistic U.S.A.
3) You seem to be viewing the whole of the circumstances through the prism of western idealism. And the consensus of western idealists is that whatever America does is always correct, and whatever any other nation does that Americans disagree with is simply wrong. The fact is that America is also guilty of terrorism and malfeasance, and American has been guilty of terrorism around the world for over the past half-century - we simply call it something else. England and the U.S.A. have been meddling in Middle-eastern since and before the signing of the Treaty at Versailles.
We will never resolve the problem(s) and have a lasting peace with the other side until the truth is told about both sides, and when something is done about the problem on both sides.
4) The fact is that 19 individuals came to America on 9/11, and wreaked havoc on America. We said that what they did was wrong. And following a legitimate response in Afghanistan, we raised the ante and did far worse than what the 19 individuals who drove American airlines into buildings did. We went on to invade, wreak havoc, murder and maim perhaps a couple of hundred thousand individuals in once sovereign nation that hadn't done anything to the U.S.A.
We continue today to occupy the once sovereign nation of Iraq, and I am certain that your condemnation is reserved only for the 19 Saudis, who acted in the same manner in America but to a lessor degree, than the United States did in Iraq. And, both sides, justified their actions by blaming the other side.
The truth will make you free - but, you will also have to get in the real world, for the number one weapon's maker in the world has not simply been selling or warehousing those weapons - we are using them to destroy innocent lives!
And Horrified wrote,
DEAR GOD! We're just like Israel. As savage and as vile. As careless of life and as vindictive. Bombing the hell out of everything?
Who cares what new bomb we use? The degregation!
Posted by: Horrified
Not just Israel (the Rev likes to keep the record straight), even the Apostles in the Bible wanted to call down fire from heaven on at least one occasion in order to destroy their perceived enemies.
What the Apostles were proposing would have been the moral equivalent of using manned or unmanned aerial vehicles (as America is doing today in Iraq), to fire hellfire missiles, or simply drop bombs or napalm on other unsuspecting and undeserving human beings who didn't see things the way that the Apostles did.
Jesus told the Apostles, er herm, we don't do things that way. Someone else should inform the jingoist Americans, and our leaders today - including many in the church that in a Christian nation, we shouldn't do things that way either. However, we once again are witnessing the obfuscation of God and the dumbing down of his Word, by religion and the religious - keep in mind that the majority of Israel today may be secular. Paul even noted, that Israel of his day had left the righteousness of God in pursuit of establishing their own righteousness - a righteousness I might add, that too many in religious circles today are willing to emulate.
Israel's pact today with the current occupier of 'near Babylon' the United States of America, differs very little from their 8th century B.C. pact with the ancient Babylonians! Along with the United States, Israel has simply gone back to the future! Clearly the U.S.A. has gone about to establish its own righteousness. I call it the righteousness of self-righteousness or Amero-centric righteousness. The fact that America currently occupies near-Babylon has eschatalogical implications of enormous proportions, and should frighten every biblical scholar. The implication being, that it is the U.S.A., and not the U.S.S.R., as we were once told that it would be, that is the Babylon of our day, if not of Biblical prophecy - and to boot America's form of Christianity is the religion of today's modern day Babylon!
"By the side of every religion is to be found a political opinion, which is connected with it by affinity..."Alexis de Tocqueville
The United States a Christian nation? Hee hee hee!
Peace & grace